Podcast: What New Zealand's 19th-century teachers knew but progressive educators forgot

Dr Michael Johnston
Prof Elizabeth Rata
22 April, 2026

In this episode, Michael speaks with Professor Elizabeth Rata about the history of New Zealand's school system. The conversation challenges the contemporary narrative of 19th-century schools as authoritarian and oppressive. They discuss ways in which teaching was knowledge-rich and aligned with what we now understand from the science of learning before late 20th-century ideological shifts reshaped education, sidelining knowledge and teacher expertise.

 

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